|
|
Post by outofkungfu on Mar 21, 2009 18:20:33 GMT -6
Hi all,
I was wondering if WSM will be holding any type of deliverance ministry training anytime soon. I used to be involved in mystical kung-fu but because a Christian and started reading the Bible to break out of it. I am currently involved with an evangelical organization that is very thorough in one-to-one Bible teaching but does not deal much with spiritual warfare and I know of many even in my own city that are in bondage in the same way I was. The only help I know to offer them is one-to-one Bible study but I would love to learn more about deliverance ministry and spiritual warfare. I was wondering if WSM is offering any training sessions anytime soon. It sounds like they have a lot to teach. Thanks and I look forward to replies.
|
|
|
|
Post by Sequel on Mar 21, 2009 20:48:51 GMT -6
dear outofkungfu,
I am please to read your e-mail. Some of us are working on an oversea project that will benefit those in poverty of the world and have refrained from conducting conferences.
You are blest to be taught the Word, which far exceeds the limitations of kungfu. There are many in this world that applies spirit power to fight one another in this world and God is not please with them. Since Jesus made spoil of the principalities of the satanic hierarchy - the occult, evil, and satanic have been defeated by the God given powers and authorities. Regrettably few Christians have been taught the spirituality of the Word, the God powers, and the understanding the importance of the gifts of the Holy Spirit! Jesus did not leave us as orphans. The proper spiritual understanding was intended to be applied by the wise of the Word. Theology and not doctrine needs to be distinguished. Your desire to learn spiritual warfare is very good.
I have been constantly asked for conferences and have only done private briefings on conference content for the seriously ill. WSM main problem has been queing groups of 30-50 attendees in a specific city. If you wish to be added on a conference listing please let us know your email and city which you live in. At some point we hope to conduct a conference in your region.
Perhaps the readership would be interested in what would make one become out of kungfu.
God Bless
|
|
|
|
Post by outofkungfu on Mar 22, 2009 13:30:41 GMT -6
Sequel,
Thank you very much for responding. I would be happy to share my story but I could go on and on so I'll try and be brief. (It didn't happen) About six years ago I got into kung-fu because I was already trained in Judo, wrestling, ju-jitsu, and boxing but I knew there had to be something more out there. I found someone on the internet who told me that he would show me some stuff I had never seen. I went and met him and when I felt the energy come out of his hands, and how he could project it, I was hooked. He gave me some exercises to practice it and so I practiced for hours a day for approximately three years. It was mostly self study but I also met with him for private lessons. I was amazed by my new abilities but my personality started to change. I became more withdrawn and darker and a lot less social. I also amassed a library about all types of occult practices such as hypnosis, internal kung-fu alternative psychology, etc. After I graduated college (about three years into my practices) I couldn't take it anymore. I couldn't control my "chi" and it felt like it was taking over. I had no idea what to do and ever night was torment. Finally, I was in my bed feeling like I was about to die so I cried out to Jesus. I was not healed immediately but I knew I was going to be okay.
Jesus put it in my heart to start reading the Bible the next day and I did. It was the only way to keep from my kung-fu and "chi" exercises. God's word was the only thing that was powerful enough to break me free. I finished the Bible in about two or three months and kept reading continually. At times, I felt that I wasn't strong enough but I kept fighting on even with all that dark energy in me. I did not, however, truly commit to a Christian life because I didn't know how. My family attended church but were not devout Christians. About a year and a half after my deliverance from kung-fu a Korean man approached me and asked me if I wanted to study the Bible. I remembered Matthew Ch. 10 so I agreed to Bible study. I have been a faithful Bible student since and have given up my old sinful habits.
I thank God for the organization that provided my one-to-one Bible teacher and I have met the leaders of the organization and they are some of the most commited Christians I have ever met. Often times, however, I become a bit disheartened because they don't know much about the occult or about deliverance. I read a young man's testimony back when I first started reading the Bible. His testimony was even more far fetched than mine but very similar even down to the style of kung-fu. His story gave me great encouragement. He said that most Christians couldn't match what he learned about spirituality from the occult and I definitely know how he felt. He said, however, that he met powerful Christians from WSM who would become his mentors.
I thank God for his testimony. As I said, I often become disheartened when I ask my Bible teachers about deliverance and they say to just study the Bible and all demons will flee. It has been three and a half years since I gave up the kung-fu and started reading the Bible. Truth be told, at times I feel like I'm still not even a hundred percent but I definitely don't have problems of the same severity or frequency that I used to. I'm sure that at this time next year my problems will be a thing of the past but its tough that it has taken so long. But then I understand that God works in different ways. At the same time, I do know others who are in bondage to kung-fu, meditation, or the occult. I have one friend who meditates and his apartment is covered with idols (mostly Buddha heads). I have studied the Bible with him but I know how long it'll take and I wish I could just cast those spirits out of him. One time, however, we were studying the Bible and his bookcase of occult books spontaneously tumbled without anyone touching them. He was even spooked himself.
Anyway, I can understand that WSM is focused on the seriously ill as it should be. I am no longer in such a precarious position and I feel the Lord beginning to work mightily in my life. I do have a lot of questions because of what I have seen and the fact that no one in my evangelical organization has dealt with those issues. I do know that Jesus is Lord over all and that he rescues those who call on his name. It is scary to see so many today gettting deep into the occult without knowing what they are really doing. May God bless your ministry and the work you do. Sorry to take up so much space but hopefully, some may be encouraged by my experience.
P.S. - I am from Akron, OH and currently study in Blacksburg, VA and my email is todddeakron@gmail.com.
|
|
|
|
Post by Sequel on Mar 28, 2009 23:07:01 GMT -6
Dear outofkungfu,
There are millions of people 'intrigued' and deceived into the aspirations of the occults. What do you think attract the young people to engage into these occults? How are they kept in these activities?
Because many of the occults lead to the destruction of the people - what are some of the tell-tale signs should people be looking for and how do you recommend them to depart from such activities?
What should be the signs of effective deliverance? Have you found it difficult to seek deliverance? I believe the readership would like to engage with you on these topics.
Sincerely,
Sequel
|
|
|
|
Post by outofkungfu on Apr 3, 2009 15:55:38 GMT -6
Sequel, I know for me I was attracted to the occult because of the power. I was a well-liked kid who did well in school but I always wanted more power. So when I met the kung-fu teacher and he could emit "chi" out of his hands, I wanted to learn that power no matter what the cost. I think young people are attracted to the occult because Satan has done a good job of decieving people into believing that there are no dark forces in the world only "alternative" forces. Its amazing how our culture is obsessed with magic and sorcery. It is because we are spiritual beings. For a time humans tried to content themselves with the natural and explain everything with reason but as spirit beings we cannot ignore our interest in the spiritual realms of the world. There are many signs to tell if someone is under the influence of that dark energy that I was. They cannot look you in the eyes. They have these huge veins popping out of their necks and they love to utter blasphemies. Once I saw a friend who I could tell was emersed in the occult just by looking at him so I asked him if he had been doing yoga (one of the most common forms of the occult today) and he replied "no, but I have been meditating on Buddha daily". I could tell by one look. I don't know as much about deliverance as I would like to. For me it has been a long process. It has taken about 3 and a half years. I just read the Bible, prayed, and fasted. I don't know about others but there has been nothing instant about my deliverance but I am so much freer than I have been in years. I wish I could deliver those who are under Satan's grip instantly which is why I inquired about deliverance ministry  I know God wouldn't have put me through what I went through though without a plan to use me greatly. I thank God for his mercy and sending his son to be our sacrifice. Be on guard against the occult and teachers of all falsehood. I believe there will be an unprecedented rise of the occult in the years to come, so it is more important than ever that Christians be spiritual and exercise discernment. |
|
|
|
Post by Sequel on Apr 5, 2009 0:00:33 GMT -6
dear outofkungfu,
There have been several 8th degree black belts that have been trained in WSM deliverance. Two 9th degrees have also asked for training; but have not been trained at this time. One 8th degree was taught how to knock out people at 80 feet!
Unlike martial arts, which takes many years to train - WSM deliverance training only takes 3 days. The first two days, the spiritual meaning of 93 scriptures are explained and discussed on a forum basis. One the third day, the attendees actually participate with the instructor in applying the scriptures in actual exorcisms. Each attendee is cautioned to only begin deliverance with experienced instructors only until they become proficient on thier own.
The intriguing aspect of WSM deliverance has been the exact manner which Jesus used to heal the sick - of all manner of sickness and all manner of diseases. This is not 'faith healing' as Jesus did not heal by faith; nor did Jesus ever prayed for healing.
Each deliverance is different due to the different personalities of the unclean spirits. Due to this - exorcists need to have broader base understanding in dealing with spirits.
Although I cannot describe the entire processes used by WSM, the liabilities and responsibilities prevents us from public disclosure . There are young persons very interested in WSM methods and we are pleased to focus in 'teaching' than the deliverance only aspects - to preserve and continue the healings.
Coming back to your original request for a deliverance conference - the world is experiencing fulfillment of 'endtime' events that are serious. As a former Ass't professor of Intl Business, an advance food processing plant was planned, awaiting to be developed to preserve food. It is intended to help many during these times that we are entering.
Pray for us and we hope to meet with you at a future conference.
God Bless you.
|
|
|
|
Post by outofkungfu on Apr 6, 2009 18:16:43 GMT -6
Sequel,
The manner of teaching sounds very thorough and it is sorely needed in today's society where so many are getting steeped in various occult practices. I don't know much about exorcising unclean spirits but I thank God for this forum and his faithful workers. I do pray that he will open up the door for me to learn to cast out unclean spirits. Whenever a conference or some other opportunity for instruction arises, just tell me when and where and I'll fly out. I know of at least 3 people in my neighborhood who I know for a fact are afflicted by unclean spirits and will remain trapped unless someone delivers them. On the other hand, I realize WSM is busy and is engaging the dark powers at hand in various forms. If anyone wants a copy of my testimony, I'd be happy to send it. I know for me, reading someone's testimony who was in a position, similar to the one I was in, was a great help. Thank you so much for all the information. May God bless you and I look forward to attending a WSM event in the future.
|
|
|
|
Post by Sequel on Apr 6, 2009 21:55:09 GMT -6
outofkungfu,
When we meet in a conference, you should be able to knock someone out 15-20 feet away! Does not require any expulsion of chi. When you get good at what you will learn, you should be able to knock them out at 1,000 feet!
A young Canadian woman was following me around during deliverance of attendees and there was a wonderful brother of about 300 pounds, so I asked her to knock him out by blinking her left eye at a distance of 10 feet! She did and he was knocked out like a huge rock! This was her first cast out!
Because of a lot of serious spirits and illnesses, normally, I get rid of them - however, it is wonderful to watch others take on spirits and diseases! This is the purpose of the conferences. I am always glad to train people that will outlive me and to carry forward what God has shown His grace to humanity.
Be blest until we meet!
|
|
|
|
Post by outofkungfu on Apr 7, 2009 19:42:16 GMT -6
Sequel,
Wow, that all sounds amazing. I can't wait for the Lord to use me in that way. You have my email. Let me know if I can provide any further info. Thanks again for all the information. I look forward to learning more about WSM and I will be sure to keep the ministry in my prayers.
|
|
|
|
Post by blekenlapse on Sept 26, 2020 23:05:19 GMT -6
|
|
I know God wouldn't have put me through what I went through though without a plan to use me greatly. I thank God for his mercy and sending his son to be our sacrifice. Be on guard against the occult and teachers of all falsehood. I believe there will be an unprecedented rise of the occult in the years to come, so it is more important than ever that Christians be spiritual and exercise discernment.